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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 05:34:00 -
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Ok people, i might need some help from very talented ship fitters.
Some mate told me that he got a CNR and it will be totaly unbeatable by anything else except ships not allowed in high sec. Is that true or not true? Who knows.
Cant say every detail about his fit but the estimated fit from the CNR will contain: -X shield booster -Active general resist hardeners -Torpedos or cruise missiles -MWD scrambler, so MWD ships cant truly come close and use optimal range And the blue pill :)
And the ships i could use against the insane powerman: -Vindicator and Navy Megathron -Machariel -Loki -Wolf and Jaguar
Is there any fit possible to beat him? Or is the CNR truly the ruler? Good question. The ship might have a weakness against fast flying AB ships, but he will use webber drones i guess because his biggest weakness is the very slow speed. And he said im not allowed to use more than 1 Neut = whoot.
Help me to destroy the EVE powerman!
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 05:47:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 05:54:55 Dominix? Sounds hard to believe. I got that ship and yes its dual repped. But against such a bastard CNR? *shrugs*
The "totally" is out of my mind because none was ever able. So lets say "almost".
But now i got a brainstorm: Why not to use a AB instead of a MWD on a Mega, so i can come close.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 06:00:00 -
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So you wanna NOS it down and only attack by Ogre drones? You think the DPS is enough when only using Ogres? And what ship type to use?
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 06:16:00 -
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If i cant beat him its probably true unless proven otherwhise.
Apparently Drake and CNE are the most favored ships from EVE players and it got a reason. I always had in mind CNE is a awesome mission ship. Now that i hear that they even are "overhelming" PVP ships... *shrug*
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 06:24:00 -
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Still lame that a T1 Domi could beat all the faction ships. Anyway, lets test it out.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 06:38:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 06:40:19 Deadly serious, i want to beat that ship. Because its not possible to have something impossible, right or wrong?
Pretty sure he use Torpedo because Cruise isnt powerful enough.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 17:22:48 a). The fight would be prearranged, and we try not to blast below hull because its truly just arm wrestling for fun. I just cant believe it that he is nearly unbetable, and someday he will get the proof. Always had in mind CNR are missions ships and its impressive that they can take out most PVE ships and even got like 35 KM range which is useful for missions too. I got some respect now. I mean, usualy im not having more than 1 neut on my BS when i make regular PVP, so in theory he is truly nearly unbeatable.
Of course, unless i use my 3 times Neut Kronos, but cant/wont be used. That one is probably a CNR smasher: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/13198-PvP-Kronos-The-meatgrinder.html
b). He will use webber drones and all the crap, according to romours he already "accidentally" was blasting a T3 with! So its not like, it will be so easy just to outrun him with speed.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries The "one neut only" rule is unrealistic. While most battleships don't fit multiple neuts, Typhoons and Dominixes often fit 2-4 of them for PvP.
Yes on my Typhoon im using 4 neuts and truly wanted to try but i wont always be in my Typhoon and what happens when i got a Megathron? Will he just rip it apart because not stacked up with neuts?
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 20:03:00 -
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Low sec stuff is here for a reason but biggest usable is BS size. Not sure the Hyperion can do it because its correct, the CNR can use any damage type they like which is truly a huge advantage. So i cant even make a anti resists build, need to have something balanced.
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Miss Xoco
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Posted - 2009.11.07 20:24:00 -
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Do not underestimate that powerman, he will use blue pills and is overloading everything, the shield becomes that powerful, that probably not even a overloaded Megathron can break it by raw DPS.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 20:52:00 -
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It doesnt matter how much they can tank, because you can only truly be the king as long as cap boosters available. The point is that you need to survive yourself and put out enough DPS to crash a opponnent before the boosters are going out. Sure you can fit a super tank and be unbreakable, but everything will be sacrifized for that duty. Then simply try to avoid the damage because it cant be true that a super tank even can do super DPS, unless in a fairy tale.
Anyway, i will definitely try out a Domi. 
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Xoco on 07/11/2009 22:05:32 If ya look for a troll, i can be your troll. 
Originally by: Katarlia Simov Despite what some people above have said a torp CNR does frikkin evil damage, and I wouldn't be hugely certain of a win in a neut domi.
I'd go for am AB fit loki. Between speed, low sig and good resists, he won't be able to damage you much (EFT says less than 100 dps on you).
Then kill all his drones, and slooooowly grind him down.
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The Loki is definitely a evil ship for PVP, im just not sure how good he will be able to damage me with his torpedos. And yes, the web drones and all the crap i might just shot down, a Loki should be able to hit them all. The problem with the AB Loki is, thats a very good 10MN AB is very hard to get, its way easyer for 1 or 100 MN. However, the AB Loki could run the speed of a Frig.
That the Dominix will win isnt sure, and its a T1 ship. Maybe the new faction Domi released in next patch could be a real killer.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.07 22:24:00 -
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Im not having a Golem and wont be able to fly. Marauder isnt a option yet.
Apart from that, a Golem is a mission ship in my eyes. I always had in mind the Kronos is the better PVP ship.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.08 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Xoco on 08/11/2009 00:12:31 I just do it for fun and i can even learn something with. When i know how to counter certain ship types or fittings. You will need to make me very mad till i got the willpower to make someone scream. Its not a war, its a match.
Actually im not even a real PVPer. I dont go roaming with cheap chips boom.. get a new one, boom another one. Its not my style.
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Miss Xoco
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Posted - 2009.11.09 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Xoco on 09/11/2009 17:08:47
Originally by: beor oranes Actually agree, go for a gank Mega or Abaddon (no neuts so he feels really safe), have 2 friends in Guardians on standby once you have him tackled warp them in at 50km, get them to supply cap to you and rep, watch him die, scoop loot and make a few bil while causing someone to emorage at you.
This is a solo kill! Backup not allowed. Everyone can do it when backed up with support. 
What i can say from my experience: I was able to tank a Brutix in my shield tanked Cyclone, a crap ship, for pretty long, but as soon as my cap is destroyed, the tank will fall apart like butter in the sun. Without neuts however, nearly impossible to make it gone. But that would be the challenge.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.09 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Xoco on 09/11/2009 19:15:06 Still, he would rip apart even 3 billion fitted ships easy with if they arnt spiked with Neuts because those ships couldnt break his shield but theyr own tank may fall apart in some min.
With the exception of ships who are having heavy cap destroying capabilitys as a standart, only a few usualy are having a setup with such a standart. A single Neut wouldnt be enough. Think the only ship able to destroy him without having many Neuts or Nos as a counter attack, is a faction or officer equipped T3.
The other question is, how long the own tank is able to hold because neuting takes time and you wont have the time when your tank is falling apart because of massive torpedo attacks. Thats why im not 100% sure if a 4 times Heavy Neut Typhoon would do it because the torpedo might hurt it to much. However, the new faction Typhoon could be a little beast.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar TECH LAB INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.11.10 07:47:00 -
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The Marauder isnt a option to me, i simply cant use it. It need pretty evil skills riding Marauder and Command Ships and stuff like that. To find the scythe, i was bringing it up already, a Kronos could do same. Only true weakness is the 2 element limitation and a rather average tank. But the offensive power and tank break capabilities is pretty much insane, on a T2 grid rigged Kronos. Because of the up to 3 times Neuts so there isnt truly a tank possible a Kronos couldnt break.
Neut on Golem however is very hard when you see the limited grid, 6500 which is a joke for any BS. Raven got more and Kronos got almost double. Even if the launchers and modules takes few grid, Kronos still got more grid left after fitting with 4 turrets and 1 repper. And a grid rig is a % amount which adds more on Kronos aswell, every bit counts for the Neuts. Without Neut its obviously hard to break power tanks. But anyway, Golem is the way better mission ship.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.11.11 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Xoco on 11/11/2009 09:00:53
Originally by: Jessica Fyers
Sig radius 143m, 600 DPS, >740m/s speed; permaruns everything. Have fun looting.
Already got a armor tanked Loki, but should be able to have same performance. Or not?
Its totaly under construction. I was finish with learning the T3 skills just yesterday, and im not very sure what to put inside the missing slots. Can it outlast him without a Neut, when properly fitted? Thats the question. And i think i made a failure. I used a engineering subsystem which is granting far to much grid. Guess i rather use a subsystem to increase my capacitor. Other stuff seems fine. Somehow i cant find any setup in need of that crazy grid. Would probably reach 1800 grid when submodule skill maxed.
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